Sunday 27 May 2012

32 comments:

Unknown said...

I think there's too much of an expectation from up-and-comings (as I like to call them) that you can make a serious career solely from blogging. I was trying to work out in my head yesterday (following the conference you mention) what I'd have to do to jack my full-time job in to cover my salary and in all honesty, it scared the bejeezus out of me. I'd have to run a tonne of sponsored posts, spend the next year quadrupling my readership to generate more ad revenue, sign up with an agent to investigate other opps and freelance my arse off in an already saturated journalism market. I don't want the stress, hassle or pressure to support myself through something that's currently fun, but also that would completely change what my blog is today.

I was a little disappointed at the talk yesterday as the only route they spoke about to 'make a career out of blogging' was to affliate the hell out of your blog and sell a shedload of advertising. That's all utterly dependant upon readership, which to a room full of small/mid range bloggers (in size) just wasn't the right message. I think blogging can help open doors into various roles (PR, social media, marketing, online, writing) but it's not a miracle way to a pot of money at the end of a rainbow. There's a reason very few have 'made it' as a pro-blogger, the same way there's only a few ridiculously successful entrepreneurs in this world.

Unknown said...

I love this post!! Really informative and very useful, as someone fairly new to the blogging world it's great to get a very honest perspective from some more experienced.
I must admit I'd love to make a living from blogging at some stage in my career but I really wouldn't know where to start. I've worked in IT for 10 years and feels scary at the thought of that much change!
I've also been guilty of being envious of other bloggers that maybe started around a similar time to me and you are so right, it doesn't do you any good. I try really hard to not let myself get jealous now and just concentrate on my posts and making them better.
X

MaquiLab said...

I started almost 2 years ago with the clear intention of NOT becoming a commercial blogger. It cost me a lot - at times I even thought "Why the heck am I doing this?", but then, 100 followers isn't that bad, when youv'e decided to block all advertising.

I don't regret a thing as I have my faithful followers, I have people who come to me to ask me questions about a mascara or a lipstick, and most of all, I can sleep without bothering about stats. It's just that I want my blog to be as personal as a diary blog would be, and have only a handful of people really valuing my opinion.

You, bigger bloggers, are there to provide me with insights and stuff, and I'm really thankful there are people like you to take up all the pressure involved in pro-blogging :)

liloo said...

Pro blogging isn't for me. I already think that blogging as i am doing it now i taking over my life, never mind if i want it to pay for my cat's food as you said :P Part of me thinks also that as soon as something becomes your profession, then it loses in fun if this makes sense. i have yet to do a sponsored post, i'll be happy with an opportunity like that every now and then though x

Miss drifted Snow White said...

I've been thinking about going 'pro' for a long while, but the troubles and pressures you describe you are dominated by are exactly the reasons why I don't think I could or should do it. If you are a blogger that does have enough stats, then yeah, why not, but it is SOOOO hard 'these days' to get to that level...

But one thing you describe, I find myself doing regardless of being or wanting to be pro or not - and that's almost only blogging about things that I think are interesting to my readers. But I think that's a natural thing to happen - you wanna 'reward' people for them spending time on your blog, so you wanna give them something interesting to read :)

Keep at it hunni, and good luck!! xxx

Unknown said...

Blogging laid bare. Great post as usual, Jane. Sometimes I get asked by people how to make money from it and I reply, it's very difficult. Like you, I didn't set out with this in mind but to write, honestly and with a degree of objective wit (saying things the mags won't) about fashion and beauty.

My blog is precious as it's an outlet and a brand I work hard on but some newbies seem to want everything too easily, instant celebrity and fortune without the graft, and, as is the truth, there's no easy route to this. I'd much rather have integrity and respect from my peers and readers who know I remain steadfastly honest than sell out or expect too much. To date, I'm keeping on keeping on. Here's to us!

Anonymous said...

I love your blog and your honesty and insight. I don't mind bloggers making money from their readers as long as they are upfront about it and I appreciate hearing the challenges you face sometimes in maneuvering the rocky blogging landscape.

Strawberry Blonde Beauty said...

Thanks for such an honest insight Jane. I am one of those that daydreams about being in your shoes and must admit this post has really made me think twice! I'm just not sure that I could cope with that level of pressure were I lucky enough to be under it! ;)

Nic xx

My Autistic Adventure said...

Oh god. My mind is boggling to be honest. It's a fantastic informative post btw but I can't get my head round any of it really... I kind of go with the flow and see where it takes me (not very far as it happens)...

I guess I'll just continue pootling along in my own way... perhaps at some point I'm really going to have to get my head around all this... am amazed about the agents thing. Not because I find it shocking or wrong, but because I genuinely had no idea.

Thats me in a nutshell, clueless.

Anonymous said...

Well thought out article Jane. I would think only a tiny percentage of blogs, regardless of subject, become proper money makers for their authors. But that's not to say a person shouldn't go for it she (or he) wants to.

I'm thinking writing free lance is an option I want to explore. I'm realistic enough to accept that, for several reasons, I can't make a decent living strictly from blogging. But I love my little beauty blog and never started out with a payday as the goal.

Ali

Olivia J said...

Great post on the reality of blogging and with everyone blogging, I can see where PR will become more picky and choose those with the highest stats.

Me, I have to go with the flow of what I can muster. As my stats indicate and the number of emails I have written to companies for, at least a discount, to buy some of their products so I can review; shows I don't have the readership for this either. I admit at times the fun of blogging turns into pure frustration.

I know I will never be a pro blogger because I don't want to be because of the headache of it. I admire you for doing it and dealing with the brands.

Tee Dee said...

I'd love to write for my blog full time but I know it's never going to happen. Really good article, made me appreciate the fact that my blog is my hobby. There's no pressure, if I only get 200 page views, oh well. The pressure to do this full time would be immense. Hats off to all the 'probloggers' out there.

Jen said...

Great post. I think the term 'pro blogger' can be quite misleading as many bloggers who appear to write for their blog full time also do freelance work. I'm constantly asked how I 'made my blog into a career' - I didn't. My blog makes very little money and although it's opened doors and made it much easier for me to work freelance, 90% of my income comes from my business. I work 9-5 (and often beyond) just like anyone else!

It takes serious readership to make any website profitable. With such saturation in the blog world, I think it's nearly impossible now to achieve the level of views needed to make a liveable income from a blog alone. And it's quite nice to have some freedom from your stats... they can so easily rule your life!

Unknown said...

Brilliant post, my blog was started for me to just write and have an outlet. I have a tiny readership (about 20 hits a day and about 20 followers altogether), but I write more for me and if people want to read it then I'm really appreciative of it. I've just done my first sponsored post (after researching the company and product) only accepted because it fitted into something I was writing about. I couldn't be a pro-blogger because this is something i see as a hobby rather than job. x

Georgina Kent said...

Nice post :). It's funny, I've been blogging since Jan and have nearly 50 followers. Monitising my blog is a loooong way off yet, but since a change of job (now an SEO professional) my stats is all I look at every day and as a result the amount of posts I write has declined. I can only imagine how much harder it is when you're making money from it and having to justify your stats.

Libby's Pink Vanity said...

Just an add-on; magazines do have to provide circulation stats to their readers. There is an agency that audits this too. These stats are what gives the magazine power to say how much they will charge for advertising.

Luckily for me, I don't make a lot of money so, becoming a Pro-blogger wouldn't be too hard. Financially, that is!

Unknown said...

I applaud you for posting this! For me I am just having fun writing about what I like and what interests me. I enjoy what I do and I have learnt to be selective in the things get offered to write about.

I do have adwords and one affiliate link on the blog but to me they are just there, I dont go out of my way to secure ads etc because I am still a young blog and it wouldn't be worthwhile to me or a company.

I am not the best writer but doing something right to have the followers I do even if it's a small amout in comparison to other bloggers but that said I am still a newb.

I really love it when experienced bloggers such as yourself and some of the other people that have commented post things like this, the knowledge you guys have help us newbs out and I just wanted to say it doesnt fall on deaf ears and we do appreciate it (well I know I do)

Thank you :)

Unknown said...

This was a very interesting to read :) definitely intrigued me!

Nafisah xo

http://bamblingsofnaffy.blogspot.co.uk/

Emma Cossey said...

Jen from A Little Bird Told Me has pretty much summed up what I was going to say - most pro-bloggers earn their money outside their blog, whether it be public speaking, tutorials, freelance blogging (which is what I tend to do, blog for others), copywriting and social media.

I've never really understood the resentment around stats in the blogging community. They're the only real tangible way we can measure how successful a blog is - in much the same way a singer is only as successful as how many records they've sold. It doesn't mean a blog is awful if it's not getting the stats...but equally there's a reason why so many people read the most popular blogs (like yours!)

Kelly Newton xx said...

This has really opened my eyes to the world of blogging! I'm about to start my own beauty blog as a freelance makeup artist it seems silly not to!! I am very fortunate to have access to a huge range of products and inside techniques, I can't wait to share it with the BB world :-) Thank you :-) xx

Hair Romance said...

Love your honesty about the realities of being a "problogger".

I'm now officially a full time blogger and I have made the switch through creating an online product. I sell an ebook of hairstyle tutorials through my website which is my main income source. I also have affiliate links, advertising and sponsored posts.

If people ask me how to make blogging a career I ask them what they like to do most, and what they want their blog to be for other people. Few bloggers can make a career based solely on personality blogging. It's fickle like being a celebrity and isn't sustainable for most people.

Instead think about diversifying your income with your blog. It can be a stepping stone to a new career. Use your blog as an online CV - your resume for gaining new business, building a reputation as an expert or as your portfolio.

I want my site to offer useful hairstyle advice, and to encourage women to have fun with their hair and to love their hair. I like to write a mix of personal and instructional content.

The best thing about blogging is that you have total control. Make it what you want, but don't be fooled that if you want to make it a job it is work. In saying that, it's the best job I've ever had!

Shortiee31 said...

I think pro blogging is great for people who want to do it and achieve it successfully! Blogging for me however will always be a hobby and I would like to keep it that way :)

disneyrollergirl said...

Great post Jane and agree with Hair Romance. Most 'pro bloggers' I know do freelancing to actually pay their bills (whether that's guest blogging, journalism, public speaking, lecturing), the blog itself is a self promotion vehicle so their clients can see they know what they're talking about and that they have some influence. I do guest blogging and other projects for brands and it's obvious that they expect you to blog/tweet about that work as well as your regular blog posts so they can piggyback on your audience. That's how it works. I don't look at my stats much, that way I can genuinely say I don't know what they are AND I don't want to get obsessed by them.

My blog is totally self indulgent and not mainstream so I'm never going to have hundreds of thousands of uniques but I don't want to be that kind of blog. But if advertisers want to know my figures they can ask Handpicked. All that said, I am surprised how many blogs follow a standard format. There is so much scope to be more creative and entrepreneurial with your blog if you want to make it your business, it's still early days so you can be a pioneer.

valerie @wildbeginnings said...

Fantastic informative post Jane, this is what makes your blog so worth reading every day. It shows great generosity of spirit to write with such honesty to help other bloggers by telling them how it is. It is something I try to do from the perspective of setting up your own business but sometimes I find hard to find the balance right, to not to make everything sound too difficult a task to even contemplate!

Rose said...

My thoughts exactly :)

That's why I've decided to stay away from going into pro-blogging as long as possible. With about 430 readers in total my blog is still small but companies are starting to notice me.

I've turned all offers down so far (except for a few sponsored products which I knew I would love no matter what) and I'm quite happy with my decision.
Thinking about stats day in day out isn't what I want from blogging, at least not yet.

Getting free products for reviewing purposes also makes me happy and as long as it's just that what a company wants I'm more than ok with it. But some are like "so you did that review, let us talk about ads on your blog" and that's making me uncomfortable...

Sandy said...

I love you and your blog for being so honest and saying things exactly how they are. xxx

Trimperley said...

"It’s the hardest aspect of pro-blogging – I always feel bad if there is a low response.." How do they know there is a low response your countdown ads don't link to anything?
If you are a regular reader of a blog you can tell which posts are promoting a product before you get to the pr disclaimer or even if there isn't one. The blogger tends to lose their usual style and comes over all a bit fawning. Most of us have to earn a living and I'm willing to put up a modicum of posts like this if the rest of the blog is good.
My question for the manufacturers is why launch a product if it's no good. A few less products that are better quality would be a step forward.

Beauty Box said...

As always your honesty makes this blog impeccable. I totally admire how you stick to your guns...I appreciate the revelation in what it takes to be a pro-blogger and it does answer some qns on what pro-bloggers have to do/face...it sounds like a tough job indeed but I think when it comes to making money, it is never an easy path...b/c if it were so easy, wouldn't everyone be doing it?

britishbeautyblogger said...

Trimperley: I meant with sponsored posts.. sorry if that wasn't clear.

candiinoodles said...

thanks for being so open and honest jane, before this I was thinking how easy it is to make a living out of blogging!

Amy R said...

One of the things I love the most about your blog is that your views and content haven't changed, you write about what interests you, what you think interests your readers and all things inbetween!

When I first started reading blogs I literally had an insatiable appetite for them and would gorge myself on the next girls newest lipstick obsession and quickly built up a selection of favourites which I bookmarked and read everyday. Each week my reading list becomes shorter and shorter because I'm so bored of reading and seeing the same swatches of a bloody blusher thats been doing the rounds via the brands PR, if I wanted to read about something the brand and not the blogger is interested in promoting then I'd buy an issue of ELLE and not read my favourite blogs.

So I thank you for staying true to your blog and yourself despite external pressures, keep up the amazing work and you will continue to be part of my morning routine! Closely followed by my daily dosage of life envy via the londoner and the pick me up of the daily mail website!

The Domestic Goddess said...

Thank you very much for taking the time to write this post. It is very informative, honest and revealing ... and definitely food for thought. I enjoy your blog very much, I wish you continued success and look forward to reading all :) oxo Care