No mention of price? I would expect it will cost more than Genifique. And I've noticed an increasing trend towards smaller and smaller test groups for beauty products. Especially with the premium brands. Cost-savings I suppose, though in this case it tends to make it look a bit suspect.
Just got some samples to try today..My first night of trying it.. have to say it stung, for a bit..I have only minor wrinkles so not so difficult - for this to work. What is bad, is the girls who work for Lancome, all gave different advice, none were willingly helpful.. infact they seem totally uninterested in helping someone at their beauty counter. Price of product £57 for 30ml.
12 years in the making and they cannot get the message right.
A sales assistant in Selfridges tried to sell this to me last week. They said it was because the ingredients had been folded 2412 times, as in like an envelope? Nothing about 2412 attempts at making the product, which sounds ridiculoulsy far fetched anyway. Surely they would have given up 6 years in. Well anyway judging by the mixed messages from their press release, staff sales patter and the myriad claims across the planet, all of which sound dubious at best, I will be giving this a big miss! Its also making me wary about other products that Lancome sell - Genefique is just a more eppensive version of Loreal Youth Code.
I think the idea that it's been tested on 34 women is a little bit pathetic, really - but I have been using it for about a week now, and so far have been very impressed. My skin feels plump and it looks more even.
Cosmetic companies usually have 2 different formulas for Asia and European countries because the skin is different. They like different textures etc So if the UK ad says 800 I think the formula sold in the UK has been tested on 800. Most cosmetic trials test on about 15-20 women, I have been involved in cosmetic testing, so I know this for sure. So even 34 women is good, even if it was only one test. If in total 800 has been involved its amazing. I wanted to comment on this because I have used Visionnaire now for over 1 month and I am so in love with it. It has completely changed my skin, for the better!!!! Reduced redness and dark spots and my fine lines around my eyes are almost gone. I personally cant believe what I am seeing. I will never stop using this product! I have advised all my friends and family to get it!
Hi there, actually tests are different in different countries because the government standards and allowable ingredients is different -- companies can use more or less (or all or none) of certain ingredients in Asia, Europe, South America or Canada that are different from what the FDA allows in the U.S.
But if they were just researching their new molecular discovery, LR2412, in any of its carriers, that makes each study valid in its own way.
Meanwhile, I just bought the product. I liked the fragrance, even though it's strong and "cosmeticky" -- it smells like a prestige brand.
I have been using it for about a week, and wanted to see specific things. I wanted to decrease the size of my already smallish pores. Check. I wanted to see my skin look uniform, smooth and cohesively younger. Check. And I wanted my skin to look like it did twenty years ago. Um.... I guess that's why they also make makeup.... There's really nothing they can do about saggy skin and jowls. Maybe they can discover YB7515 in a few more years of research so I can look 15 again...
Overall, I like the product, it works better than what I used before, and I stopped using my other products. If I can afford to, I will continue to use the product -- $84/bottle is steep, but there isn't a substitute.
Actually, you can do something about your saggy skin and jowls. Youtube "Jack LaLanne Face Exercises". There are 30. Do 1 every day. Take a picture of yourself on day 1 and compare on day 30. I've been doing them for almost 3 years and they've made a MASSIVE improvement in fighting gravity. Hey, it's completely free - you look a bit silly doing them, just don't do the exercises out in public. I swear they work.
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Statistically, and for market research standards, a sample of 80 respondents is NOTHING, and 450 is not too much either.
No mention of price? I would expect it will cost more than Genifique. And I've noticed an increasing trend towards smaller and smaller test groups for beauty products. Especially with the premium brands. Cost-savings I suppose, though in this case it tends to make it look a bit suspect.
Just got some samples to try today..My first night of trying it.. have to say it stung, for a bit..I have only minor wrinkles so not so difficult - for this to work. What is bad, is the girls who work for Lancome, all gave different advice, none were willingly helpful.. infact they seem totally uninterested in helping someone at their beauty counter. Price of product £57 for 30ml.
12 years in the making and they cannot get the message right.
A sales assistant in Selfridges tried to sell this to me last week. They said it was because the ingredients had been folded 2412 times, as in like an envelope? Nothing about 2412 attempts at making the product, which sounds ridiculoulsy far fetched anyway. Surely they would have given up 6 years in. Well anyway judging by the mixed messages from their press release, staff sales patter and the myriad claims across the planet, all of which sound dubious at best, I will be giving this a big miss! Its also making me wary about other products that Lancome sell - Genefique is just a more eppensive version of Loreal Youth Code.
I think the idea that it's been tested on 34 women is a little bit pathetic, really - but I have been using it for about a week now, and so far have been very impressed. My skin feels plump and it looks more even.
If the results they actually promise are true whatever the price will be I'll buy it.
Cosmetic companies usually have 2 different formulas for Asia and European countries because the skin is different. They like different textures etc So if the UK ad says 800 I think the formula sold in the UK has been tested on 800. Most cosmetic trials test on about 15-20 women, I have been involved in cosmetic testing, so I know this for sure. So even 34 women is good, even if it was only one test. If in total 800 has been involved its amazing. I wanted to comment on this because I have used Visionnaire now for over 1 month and I am so in love with it. It has completely changed my skin, for the better!!!! Reduced redness and dark spots and my fine lines around my eyes are almost gone. I personally cant believe what I am seeing. I will never stop using this product! I have advised all my friends and family to get it!
Hi there, actually tests are different in different countries because the government standards and allowable ingredients is different -- companies can use more or less (or all or none) of certain ingredients in Asia, Europe, South America or Canada that are different from what the FDA allows in the U.S.
But if they were just researching their new molecular discovery, LR2412, in any of its carriers, that makes each study valid in its own way.
Meanwhile, I just bought the product. I liked the fragrance, even though it's strong and "cosmeticky" -- it smells like a prestige brand.
I have been using it for about a week, and wanted to see specific things.
I wanted to decrease the size of my already smallish pores. Check.
I wanted to see my skin look uniform, smooth and cohesively younger. Check.
And I wanted my skin to look like it did twenty years ago. Um.... I guess that's why they also make makeup.... There's really nothing they can do about saggy skin and jowls. Maybe they can discover YB7515 in a few more years of research so I can look 15 again...
Overall, I like the product, it works better than what I used before, and I stopped using my other products. If I can afford to, I will continue to use the product -- $84/bottle is steep, but there isn't a substitute.
Actually, you can do something about your saggy skin and jowls. Youtube "Jack LaLanne Face Exercises". There are 30. Do 1 every day. Take a picture of yourself on day 1 and compare on day 30. I've been doing them for almost 3 years and they've made a MASSIVE improvement in fighting gravity. Hey, it's completely free - you look a bit silly doing them, just don't do the exercises out in public. I swear they work.
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