tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post7148058773704443318..comments2023-09-30T16:31:18.557+01:00Comments on BritishBeautyBlogger: Big Blog/Small Blog : What Is That All About?britishbeautybloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15561827478246835360noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-9805883755291819022012-08-21T03:23:40.767+01:002012-08-21T03:23:40.767+01:00Bloggers can have huge egos at times. At the end o...Bloggers can have huge egos at times. At the end of the day we are all coming from the same starting line so the rest is irrelevant! Nice post. :D<br />XXAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16315608505314812761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-7288862994514148962012-08-21T00:40:54.894+01:002012-08-21T00:40:54.894+01:00I had no idea all this stuff was going on. I star...I had no idea all this stuff was going on. I started blogging a month and a half ago after several years of dragging my feet on it because the "internets" can be a wild wild west and it kind of frightened me. <br /><br />I finally dove in and for me it is a hobby I enjoy and it is a way to develop new skills that may be useable in my profession. I can't tell you how long it took me to figure out how to set up a "menu" or "categories." I had no real idea that there was a virtual backroom of beautybloggers behind the scenes...yikes....all this stuff sounds a little like a dysfunctional sorority...I have seen those at work...it's never a good thing. <br /><br />I know that while I always like to check for new blogs, there are a few blogs I check daily, others I check weekly, and others I may check every couple of weeks. My interest in following what you have to say is dependent on different factors that are never the same and more dependent on the "feel" of the blog and the persona behind it, as well as the type of products they review. <br /><br />This whole small/big thing sounds like sour grapes....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-77550852061153384872012-08-20T19:17:59.500+01:002012-08-20T19:17:59.500+01:00This post and its comments made me think about so ...This post and its comments made me think about so many things, I had to wait until I came home because replying on my phone would have been a nightmare! I agree with everything in the post, which was beautifully written, personally I guess I would be classed as a 'start up' as I've only been blogging for a couple of months. <br /><br />Luckily for me, before I started my blog I'd never actually read anyone elses blog, and purposely didn't until I'd got mine up and running. I'm so glad I did it this way, because if I'd seen all this eliteism I would have never started. I left people with that kind of behaviour behind at school and I have no wish to have anything to do with them now. I personally just am blogging for fun, and hopefully to share info on beauty and nail products, and I agree wholeheartedly with what the anonymous poster said about some bloggers giving positive reviews to their free items, this annoys the hell out of me, and if I spot it I'll take myself away. It's not for me to try and tell them, everyones different, but 'it's a no' from me. <br /><br />I don't have loads of followers, either for my blog, or on twitter, which other half finds pretty amusing, but it really doesn't bother me. Don't get me wrong, lots of extra friends would be great, who doesn't want that, but my blogs a spare time thing, not a job, if I'm supposed to blog on a certain day, and I'm not feeling the vibe, I don't do it! And no-one cares! This is a good thing.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm rambling (am good at that), I think once PR's get too much power in the blogosphere theres a danger that it's sincerity may be compromised. In the bbloggers chat regarding 'bloggers and PR' I got really angry because the PR people were so condescending, they actually made me feel like I wasn't good enough to do a blog, very upsetting!<br /><br />There'll always be people on both extremes, tons of followers, or just a few, and such a shame about bbloggers because it could be a great way to find like minded people. <br /><br />Anyway, I'll just carry on doing what I'm doing, and hope that people like it, and if they don't, well hey, I like it anyway!Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607514666551087204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-51542688682084651772012-08-20T17:43:37.996+01:002012-08-20T17:43:37.996+01:00There's too much drama in beauty blogging, peo...There's too much drama in beauty blogging, people should just focus on their own blog and stop talking about all this nonsense. Not everyone's going to be friendly. Forget about big blogs/small blogs or whatever name you want to put to it, there shouldn't be any categories! We are all blogging and everyone started in the same place!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-28139273897787555792012-08-20T16:44:59.206+01:002012-08-20T16:44:59.206+01:00I would happily write a long ass comment about how...I would happily write a long ass comment about how great this post is, but I am work and being rebellious reading blogs! Either way, I think you are bang on- the blogging world can be quite intimidating/catty at times but this comes from the personality of the person behind the blog whether they have a higher readership or not. <br /><br />I respect those who have managed to create something wonderful from their blog, particulaly as I often struggle to find the time to blog these days so I tip my hat to those who update regularly and give so much of their time to both their blog and readers. <br /><br />I blog because I like to write, and I like to write about stuff I love, meeting new like-minded ladies is the only real bonus I hope to gain and so far so good! <br />Fantastic post <br />xxx<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06439906418935757828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-21036578597045040932012-08-20T15:47:51.202+01:002012-08-20T15:47:51.202+01:00I don't think it's fair to say "exper...I don't think it's fair to say "experienced" and "newer". I know of many blogs (mine included) that are several years old and are still in the "small" category. I think it has less to do with experience and more to do with traffic, how often posts are published, and the type of content published (is it the most recent collection or just the blogger's favorite product?).<br /><br />I'm okay with calling my blog a smaller blog because it's what I've chosen - I know that others, like you, have chosen to blog frequently to establish a career and I'm thrilled you can take that road. However I do take offense to being called less experienced when I've been around just as long or longer than some "experienced" bloggers.<br /><br />Just my two cents. As always, I enjoy reading these thought-provoking posts!My Lips But Betterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00797390559002467134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-54476255375246058532012-08-20T14:31:40.117+01:002012-08-20T14:31:40.117+01:00I'm commenting as a non blogger, but I am a bl...I'm commenting as a non blogger, but I am a bloggers audience. I stopped buying magazine 2 years ago, much preferring to read blogs. I read many, many blogs: Beauty, food, sewing, fashion, lifestyle, illness, comedy. My bookmarked list of blogs is pretty random. Small, large, new, experienced, it matters not a jot to me. I rarely subscribe, some blogs I like to 'rediscover' and read chunks of posts in one sitting, others I visit daily. I follow a few bloggers on twitter and every Sunday #bblogers chat shows up my feed. It often reads like blogging community is folding in on itself. I rarely find the topics discussed interesting, new or positive. I almost never bother clicking the links included in the twitter profile of those tweets I see complaining that their small / inexperienced blog is being over looked. I'll admit as a non blogger the #bblogers chat isn't aimed at me, I have little to add to the discussion, at times it's akin to eavesdropping, but it's worth remembering that it takes place on a public platform and what you say is a reflection of your blog and could detract new readers. If your blog is well thought out, well written, quality photos if relevant (not instagramed beyond recognition) thought provoking and not full of 'look what I got for free' (regardless of size) I'll be back to read more. sharnekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08373934771411809380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-80436162356571849322012-08-20T13:00:40.661+01:002012-08-20T13:00:40.661+01:00I'm by no means a big blog -whatever your crit...I'm by no means a big blog -whatever your criteria might be- so take what I say with a grain of salt.<br />I started blogging for myself and the 2 or 3 friends that kept asking me about skincare. To make things easy I just wrote it all down and they could read it whenever they liked. Isn't that the base of blogging? Sharing something of yourself, be it opinions or whatnot, it's your words on something. <br /><br />So after doing this for a year with no outside help, all self bought products and researched knowledge from 9 years of testing things, I finally discovered twitter & pr's. Hell I couldn't figure out why on the blogs I read, everyone seemed to have the same blush or product at the same time! 'Must be that great then' I figured.. but that's another topic.<br /><br />As you find your own voice, way of writing, handling the blog and it's ups & downs, you discover some valuable information that others shouldn't give freely to you. Call them (life) blogging lessons that we ALL have to go through. Sure you can ask for guidance these days, and there are more than enough bloggers willing to share informations/tips/tricks.. but what do you learn from this? You get instant gratification and perhaps a solution to your problem, but you're missing out on a big part of the blogging experience.<br /><br />If you hollow it all out and make it purely about 'getting pr info/freebies, more stats & followers', where does this lead you to? A scrawny blogger that relies purely on all this, because you never experienced the hard work that goes into making a blog 'work' and thrive. <br /><br />I made quite a few mistakes myself when I started out, but I've learned from them and am still building on those experiences. Reverse engineering a 'gotten' solution to what I did wrong to begin with, is practically impossible. I'm not saying you can't ask for help every now & then, we're a giant community after all brimming with knowledge, but always make sure that you do the legwork yourself. It's SO much more rewarding if you finally get to that point you focused on in your head, and you did it mostly yourself. That's another gratification some of the new bloggers are missing out on. <br /><br />If you jump on the bandwagon that screams 'give us everything we want now and for free' be it info/emails/tips, you're setting yourself up for a bitter experience down the road. <br /><br />Since you're putting in the work, you won't be occupied with 'who is bigger than you or who gets more than me', but you'll grow at a normal pace. Focus some more on yourself and not the others. They won't pay your bills or make you happy about your blog. In the end it's you and you alone who makes or breaks the blog. <br /><br />Don't rob yourself of the blog experiences, and stop trying to outdo others. Good things come to you if you keep your head high and focus on what's really important. Blogging should be fun... why does it feel like some turn it into a competition?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03558666988773804223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-75738274623428076872012-08-20T12:47:39.926+01:002012-08-20T12:47:39.926+01:00Aww bless you, sweet heart. Xx Aww bless you, sweet heart. Xx liloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05654072642850678010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-85554926558265630472012-08-20T12:35:01.748+01:002012-08-20T12:35:01.748+01:00Hi Anon.. please feel free to contact me at britis...Hi Anon.. please feel free to contact me at britishbeautyblogger@gmail.com and I will try to help with whatever you need xbritishbeautybloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15561827478246835360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-73020927418272146542012-08-20T12:34:59.377+01:002012-08-20T12:34:59.377+01:00In brief response to Lizzie's comment above - ...In brief response to Lizzie's comment above - you would ask somebody you've never met for business advice... that's what networking is for. You get out what you put in. Maybe the blogger asking for a PR email is just looking to ask for info about a new product or to tell them about a blog post you have written. I am by no means a big or even a medium blogger but I like to treat such situations as 'you get out what you put in'. Maybe one day a particular person I may have given help/advice to will do the same when I have a problem. I am of the opinion that there is no shame in asking, it is clear that everyone has a different stand on the issue of giving out PR contact details and as such, the worst that can happen is that the blogger rejects your request, the best that can happen is you get the contact details... I really don't see how it is offensive because really that is down to the individual blogger being contacted, who is completely within their right to decline. x Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00125182689219835768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-3949946941449827142012-08-20T12:29:15.725+01:002012-08-20T12:29:15.725+01:00I must just leave a comment to clarify that Sam ab...I must just leave a comment to clarify that Sam absolutely in no way upset me at all!My Autistic Adventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14573168233610682093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-39536527756956301142012-08-20T12:08:48.123+01:002012-08-20T12:08:48.123+01:00I'm a small blogger. A small blogger who has b...I'm a small blogger. A small blogger who has been bullied by a "big blogger" that has much respect in the blog world. <br />Did I commit any of the sins referenced in comments, ie: asking for PR info, samples, any of the things which are taboo? NO! <br />I apparently personally annoy this person for some unknown reason. They have chosen to privately talk badly about me to other members of groups we are in, in order to isolate me. I have been kicked out of groups unceremoniously, where this blogger is in a power position. <br />Why am I in groups and/or attempting to establish contacts? Because I also believe(d) this is a community. I thought this was a kind and peaceful community where others would be happy to help a new blogger learn the ropes. <br />In the case of this large blogger, ABSOLTELY NOT! <br />While I remain somewhat active, I am quite discouraged by said blogger and her vile henchwomen. I feel isolated and extremely hesitant to really reach out to anyone again. <br />I don't want free stuff, I blog for friends. I was pushed into some groups that promised to "teach me" how to be more effective blogger. These groups REQUIRED self promotion and I obliged since I was in need of guidance. When I didn't promote enough, I was tossed. And what did I learn? Big bloggers are unfriendly a LOT! <br />I am slowly getting over my trauma and trying to get back into the swing. Sadly, the experience has soured me from wanting to really do what I intended. <br />If you don't want to help someone, I think the proper thing would be to say "I prefer not to help you" instead of privately tearing someone apart while you wear your public "I'm so kind and helpful" face. <br />That's just ugliness the beauty blog world doesn't need. <br />I posted as anon since I fear further backlash from said blogger. <br />For that I apologize. I'm usually quite outspoken and direct. <br /><br />This is a wonderful article! I appreciate your words. They were quite encouraging to someone like me who has seen the ugly side of blogging. <br /><br />You are truly an asset to the blogging world!!!!<br /><3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-35647216708874965982012-08-20T11:15:37.918+01:002012-08-20T11:15:37.918+01:00Great post Jane. I must admit I've avoided #bb...Great post Jane. I must admit I've avoided #bbloggers chats for a little while. This topic & others always seem to keep cropping up again & again & again, it gets a bit tiring. <br />Completely agree with I don't like the term bigger & smaller blogs, it's more a case of newer or established. <br />Personally speaking as a newer blogger, there have been some amazing established bloggers, such as yourself that have been invaluable when I've asked for advice and help. It's annoys me when other newer bloggers complain so much! Like you mention, they need to put the work in, just like every other blogger has before them!<br />I hope one day that I feel like an established blogger and I can be just as helpful to someone else just starting out. Time will tell on that. <br />There maybe the odd blogger that doesn't respond, sometimes at all, like you say it's no big thing, everyone knows where the Unfollow button is. <br />Andy xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10784850612155224394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-44227046052798329172012-08-20T10:18:52.913+01:002012-08-20T10:18:52.913+01:00A great read... and so true... A great read... and so true... Nikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03195497220427852146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-14574048210953155682012-08-20T10:00:28.818+01:002012-08-20T10:00:28.818+01:00Big blog, schmig blog!
If you're happy doing ...Big blog, schmig blog!<br /><br />If you're happy doing you're thing then keep at it.<br /><br />The 'problem' with #bbloggers is that people don't read it foe what it is. Other people's opinion.<br /><br />I know I upset Charlie the other week when I said I like blog posts that are picture heavy. It's not to say that I don't like wordy posts, but that if the pics grab me, I'll stay to read the words.<br /><br />I don't see big blogs as those with lots of comments. There are some very new ones out there who've gaIned lots of commenters but are still very green as to the etiquette of the social networking world.<br /><br />I think a lot of the negativity around #bbloggers comes because bloggers, whether new or established make statements as to what you should or shouldn't do on a blog. I've done it. A few weeks back, I stated that a decent picture speaks a thousand words. And while yes it does, that doesn't mean it's gospel fact as to what you should put on your blog.<br /><br />What I was trying to do, was be helpful in response to lots of people worrying about not being good with words. Taken out of context, it sounds awfully arrogant, and I think that and other established bloggers saying similarly strong statements is what naffs off the newer bloggers.<br /><br />I don't get lots of 'how do you get freebies' emails, but I get lots of 'can I have a copy of your contacts list please' (2000 email addresses? I don't think so!) and lots of 'can you teach me how to be a makeup artist, for free' emails.... often followed by 'which hotels and photographers are you the preferred artist for, I want to see if they'll take me on'.<br /><br />Facepalm...Makeup Advice Forum - Samhttp://www.makeupadviceforum.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-84273561659275961832012-08-20T08:20:32.925+01:002012-08-20T08:20:32.925+01:00Despite the community issue behind it all, I think...Despite the community issue behind it all, I think it is quite self-explanatory, that, if you post such a post on BBB lots of people will read, reflect, comment, complain etc.<br /><br />However, if someone with less readers, influence would have - it probably would've boiled down to bitterness, arrogance and what not.<br /><br />THAT is what divides "big" and "small" imho.Godfrinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02477543222245105906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-69280228131857512262012-08-20T07:00:28.327+01:002012-08-20T07:00:28.327+01:00Helen,
Whilst to an extent I do see your point, I...Helen,<br /><br />Whilst to an extent I do see your point, I think that asking a blogger of any size for the details of a PR agency can be a bit tricky. The reasoning behind this is that bloggers work very hard to forge their own relationships with PRs do by asking someone else for the details you're sort of saying that you don't want to do the work of finding out who they are in your own, developing that relationship, you just want a quick intro. If you want to just know the agency then put a tweet out and if someone knows then they might tell you but I don't personally see why any blogger should have to divulge their own contacts. <br /><br />This is nothing to do with being a big blog (I'm a mini blog!) it's to do with putting the work in, developing your own relationships with a brand and any agency they work with. Twitter is a great way to do this. Tweet with them, answer if they ask a general question, and it will take time but you will reap dividends. But to expect someone like Jane, who has spent four years developing her blog and for whom, because of the nature of the blog, PR contacts are crucial, to divulge what are essentially her trade secrets, it's not really on.<br /><br />I've never met a "big blogger" I didn't like and I class big as someone who has a large readership and was publishing when I first started tweeting 18months ago but again, I think a lot of it is to do with developing a relationship. Would you approach someone you've never met for business advice? No! So people shouldn't be approaching bloggers who they've never tweeted with to ask for advice, regardless of size. I'm all for a sense of community but you need to put in thé work with the community too. <br /><br />LizzieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272923999765013382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-26738950948100580492012-08-20T06:44:51.337+01:002012-08-20T06:44:51.337+01:00It's interesting to see how no matter what blo...It's interesting to see how no matter what blog niche it is, you'll find the same issues - whether it's beauty or travel or design.<br />Nice to see your perspective of it!Sofia - As We Travelhttp://www.aswetravel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-1561694887082532522012-08-20T04:11:48.875+01:002012-08-20T04:11:48.875+01:00As always, I find your post thought provoking. My ...As always, I find your post thought provoking. My favorite line from you is that "The blogosphere is HUGE. Infinite, in fact and there is room for everyone to try and achieve their ambition."<br /><br />When I started blogging in May of 2008 I had no idea that people got PR samples. I blogged about what I purchased. I still do. Sometimes now, I get PR samples and that's great, but I still blog about what I purchase and my experiences. I really get annoyed by the newer bloggers who expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. <br /><br />I answer as many comments on my blog as possible. I answer all emails on my blog. I respond to tweets, facebook and youtube comments. I go out and comment on blogs that I read and blogs that interest me. I stumble and pin from blogs I like. I try to show my appreciation for the content that is inspiring or entertaining or thought provoking. (all of which, as you know, takes a tremendous amount of time!)<br /><br />My policy has always been to help each other out. Lift each other up. Be supportive. Don't tear someone else down to make yourself look/feel better. I feel like I've gotten further by helping and giving.Phyrrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02168093054712781267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-72440502947251983202012-08-20T00:59:19.883+01:002012-08-20T00:59:19.883+01:00Dear anon above - why would you ask a big, or medi...Dear anon above - why would you ask a big, or medium, blogger for their pr contacts?! That is just rude! For some reason the attitude seems to be share and share alike when the 'big' / 'experienced' bloggers actually had to work for years to get pr contacts and build relationships with them. I for one (me being the smallest of the small blogger) would be reluctant to give out ANYONES email address, be it pr or otherwise. It is just kind of rude and presumptuous. <br /><br />Also I really, really don't understand why bloggers need pr contacts? If you want to review something, buy it, test it for a decent amount of time and either love it or hate it. Then give your opinion. I dislike blogs that are just, for example, full of reviews on a shampoo/lipstick they have been sent and tried once and blogged about. And the reviews are always, always positive. What is the point in that. <br /><br />I have also been unfollowing a lot of blogs/bloggers on twitter who moan about their lack of followers. Guess what! That constant negativity has only gone and lost you another follower. Well done. <br /><br />This is quite a negative comment, I apologise, but I really did enjoy your post, I think you are bang on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-56493085345054727282012-08-20T00:23:53.457+01:002012-08-20T00:23:53.457+01:00As usual a really good thought provoking post and ...As usual a really good thought provoking post and also lots of very good comments. A big blog for me is a blog that has lots and lots of followers. I would expect that companies will give blogs with lots of traffic and readers plenty of samples and freebies to review etc. I dont have many followers and so I don't expect freebies or samples to review. Why would they give me anything ?<br /><br />It takes hard work to get to be a Big Blog if that is what you want to be. <br /><br />It is a lot of hard work, you have to be prepared to post often, make contact with other bloggers, etc and never expect a free lunch. <br /><br />Just my thoughts <br /><br />Susann xx<br />Susannhttp://www.highheel-shoes.conoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-36924250961109526542012-08-19T23:20:17.964+01:002012-08-19T23:20:17.964+01:00I think bloggers are far too wrapped up in what ev...I think bloggers are far too wrapped up in what everyone else is doing/achieving. Why compare yourself to others? We blog because we love to share our opinions/thoughts/loves but the blogging community has become somewhat more of a competition for a lot of bloggers recently. It's really sad! Great post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14108916106676785462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-20207151532896918872012-08-19T23:15:15.905+01:002012-08-19T23:15:15.905+01:00Great post, I completely agree with all your point...Great post, I completely agree with all your points.<br /><br />I'm GOBSMACKED at the "can you give me freebies to get my blog going" request - the CHEEK!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696597525886373172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8399403999744290322.post-16538511539477715562012-08-19T23:14:55.145+01:002012-08-19T23:14:55.145+01:00The blog market is saturated. The only way to grow...The blog market is saturated. The only way to grow is to produce good quality, original content. That's the only secret. Lizzynoreply@blogger.com